mssgs vs Fluxer

The Fluxer alternativewith your data in Europe

Communities, voice channels, roles and bots, like you know them from Fluxer. With your data on Dutch servers, end-to-end encrypted private chats and nine games built into the chat.

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In short

mssgs as a Fluxer alternative

mssgs is a European alternative to Fluxer for friend groups, gaming groups, clubs and communities. Both are Discord-style apps with communities, text and voice channels and roles, and neither shows ads or trains AI on your messages. The difference: mssgs stores your data in the Netherlands, with BIT in Ede, while Fluxer, a Swedish company, stores it with Vultr in New Jersey, United States. On mssgs one-to-one chats are end-to-end encrypted, the iOS and Android apps are in the stores, and nine games and bots with buttons and /commands are built in. mssgs is free to start on iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Linux and the web.

Made by: RUAL, the Netherlands (since 2009)
Data stored: With BIT in Ede, the Netherlands
Price: Free, optional Premium
Ads: None
Apps: iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Linux, web
Moving over: Rebuild your channels, share an invite link

Comparison checked on 3 October 2026.

mssgs vs Fluxer

Fluxer and mssgs, side by side

Two Discord-style apps from European companies, run in different places. Green marks the side that is ahead on that row, and we say so when that is Fluxer.

Feature comparison between Fluxer and mssgs
Feature	Fluxer	mssgs
Company and privacy
Made by	Fluxer Platform AB, Sweden (founded 2025)	RUAL, the Netherlands (since 2009)
Where your data is stored	With Vultr, an American company, in New Jersey, United States	With BIT, a Dutch hosting provider, in Ede, the Netherlands
Ads and AI training	None	None
End-to-end encryption	Not yet: encrypted calls are in testing, private messages are planned	One-to-one chats, with the Signal protocol
Age check	Date of birth at sign-up. No ID, no face scan	Age band from your device, or the age you enter. No ID, no face scan
Minimum age	13 in most countries, 16 in the Netherlands, Germany, Ireland, Poland and others	13, with protective settings and the Parent Center up to 15
Communities
Text and voice channels	Yes	Yes
Video and screen sharing	Yes	Yes, screen sharing with audio
Roles and permissions	Yes	Yes
Owners per community	One, ownership can be handed over	Several, the first owner cannot be removed
Who decides on reports	Community moderators and Fluxer's own team	Volunteer community moderators, by vote
Games, bots and AI
Games	Through third-party bots	Nine turn-based games built into every chat
Bots	Third-party bots on its API, each hosted by its developer. Slash commands and buttons are on the roadmap	Bot messages with cards and buttons, webhooks and /command triggers built in, no hosting needed
AI assistants over MCP	No official MCP server	Built into the desktop app, 127 tools, only the channels you pick
Price and apps
Price	Free, Plutonium costs €4.99 a month or €49.99 a year	Free, Premium is optional and never renews by itself
Free limits	Files up to 25 MB, messages up to 2,000 characters	Files up to 25 MB, messages up to 2,000 characters
With the paid plan	Files up to 500 MB, messages up to 4,000 characters	Files up to 50 MB, messages up to 5,000 characters
Apps	Web, Windows, macOS, Linux. iOS and Android in public beta	iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Linux, web, Apple Watch
Open source, run it on your own server	Yes, under the AGPL	No, mssgs runs it for you in the Netherlands

Checked on 3 October 2026 against Fluxer's own privacy policy, Plutonium page, download page, 2026 roadmap, minimum age guide, company information and API documentation. Fluxer is young and changes fast; if something here is out of date, tell us at support@mss.gs and we fix it.

Where it runs

Made in Europe is not the same as hosted in Europe

Fluxer is a Swedish company, but its privacy policy says it hosts most account information, messages, communities and files with Vultr in Piscataway, New Jersey, and the app at web.fluxer.app answers from Vultr's American network. mssgs keeps all of it in the Netherlands. Here is who does what, and where, each with a source you can open yourself.

The company

mssgs is made by RUAL and operated by Deverence Group B.V. in Brummen: a Dutch private company, privately owned, with no foreign parent.

Deverence Group company record

Your chats, photos and account

Live on servers at BIT in Ede, a Dutch hosting provider with its own data centres. Not with an American cloud, and not in the United States.

Where mssgs runs

The website and the domain

mss.gs and its nameservers run directly on BIT's network (AS12859), with no American middleman at the front door.

Network record at RIPE

Checked on eu-alt.eu

The eu-alt.eu listing

eu-alt.eu, a guide to European software, records who owns each service and where its servers are, with dates and sources, and refreshes the DNS data daily. This is what it says about mssgs:

Ownership: EU controlled
Checked: 4 September 2026
Core hosting: BIT, Ede
Website: BIT (AS12859)

Fluxer

Fluxer has no games of its own; communities add them through third-party bots.

mssgs

Nine turn-based games are built into every chat, from Four in a Row to Battleship, and up to five can run at once.

Fair is fair

What Fluxer does well

Fluxer is a good project with its own strengths. Worth knowing before you move a whole group.

Open source. Fluxer's code is public under the AGPL, so anyone can read it.
Self-hosting. You can run Fluxer on your own server, for free.
Big files and sharp streams with Plutonium. Files up to 500 MB, screen and camera in up to 4K at 60 frames per second.
Your emoji everywhere. With Plutonium, a community's custom emoji and stickers work in every chat.
Voice servers worldwide, in 16 regions, so calls are routed close to the people in them.
Independent. Funded by subscribers and donors, without venture capital.

Stay on Fluxer if

you want to run the server yourself
open source code matters more to you than where the official service is hosted
you mostly stream in 4K

Choose mssgs if

you want your data in Europe, not in New Jersey
you want end-to-end encrypted private chats today
your group uses phones and wants apps from the App Store and Google Play
you want games, bots with buttons and /commands, and MCP built in
your group wants to own its space together, with several owners

Switching

Move your group from Fluxer in three steps

There is no automatic import from Fluxer, so you rebuild the parts you use. For most groups that is one evening.

Get mssgs

Free on iOS, Android, Windows, macOS and Linux, or open it in your browser. No credit card needed.

Rebuild your community

Create a community, add text and voice channels in categories, and set up roles. Add your co-owners right away.

Invite your members

Post an invite link or QR code in your Fluxer community. Invites can expire or be limited to a number of uses.

Moving a large community? Get in touch and we help you plan it. More questions? See the FAQ or the help desk.

mssgs vs Fluxer: frequently asked questions

What is Fluxer?

Fluxer is a free, open source chat app in the style of Discord, made by Fluxer Platform AB, founded in Stockholm in 2025. It has communities with text and voice channels, roles and screen sharing, a paid plan called Plutonium, and you can run it on your own server. See Fluxer's company information.

Where does Fluxer store my data?

Mostly in the United States. Fluxer's privacy policy of 2 October 2026 says it hosts most account information, messages, communities, files and other content with Vultr in Piscataway, New Jersey. mssgs stores all of it with BIT in Ede, the Netherlands.

Is Fluxer end-to-end encrypted?

Not yet. Fluxer's privacy policy says nothing on Fluxer is currently end-to-end encrypted. Encrypted calls are being tested, and optional encryption for DMs and small groups is on its roadmap. On mssgs, one-to-one chats are end-to-end encrypted with the Signal protocol.

Which is better, mssgs or Fluxer?

That depends on what your group needs. If you want to run the server yourself or read the source code, Fluxer is the one. If you want your data in Europe, end-to-end encrypted private chats, finished phone apps, and games and bots built in, mssgs is the better fit: it is made in the Netherlands and free to start.

Does Fluxer have an app for iPhone and Android?

In public testing: Fluxer offers a TestFlight beta on iOS and a Google Play beta on Android, and plans a full store release in 2026. mssgs is in the App Store and on Google Play, and also runs on Windows, macOS, Linux, the web and Apple Watch. See downloads.

Is mssgs free?

Yes. Communities, channels, direct messages, voice calls, the games and the map are free for everyone. Premium is optional, is paid with credits and never renews by itself. Fluxer's Plutonium is a subscription of €4.99 a month or €49.99 a year.

Can I move my Fluxer community to mssgs?

Yes, by hand: there is no automatic import from Fluxer. Create a community, recreate your channels, categories and roles, then share an invite link or QR code in your Fluxer community. Large communities can contact us for help.

Does mssgs have bots and games?

Yes, both built in. Bot messages with cards and buttons, webhooks and /command triggers need no hosting, and AI assistants such as Claude connect over MCP. Nine turn-based games, including Four in a Row, Battleship, Checkers and Word Guesser, run inside every chat.

Other alternatives

Discord alternative For friend groups, gaming groups and communities WhatsApp alternative For groups that outgrew a group chat Slack alternative For teams that want their data in Europe Microsoft Teams alternative Team chat without Microsoft 365 Hyves alternative Healthy, ad-free, truly European

Bring your group over

Free to start, no credit card. Your community, your rules, your data in the Netherlands.

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